How Leaders Build Organizations That Get Better at Change
PMI CEO, Pierre, talks with Julia Dhar of Boston Consulting Group (BCG) about what it really takes to make change stick inside organizations.
How Leaders Build Organizations That Get Better at Change
PMI CEO, Pierre, talks with Julia Dhar of Boston Consulting Group (BCG) about what it really takes to make change stick inside organizations.
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Episode Overview
7 April 2026
With guest Julia Dhar
In this episode of The Shift Code Podcast, host Pierre Le Manh is joined by Julia Dhar of Boston Consulting Group (BCG) to discuss why most change initiatives stall, how to architect decisions that accelerate adoption, and the human behavioral science principles that separate transformation success from failure.
Meet Our Guest
Julia Dhar
Managing Director and Partner at Boston Consulting Group (BCG)
Julia Dhar is a Harvard-trained behavioral scientist and Managing Director at Boston Consulting Group, where she founded and leads BCG’s Behavioral Science Lab. She has spent more than a decade applying experimental behavioral science—drawing from psychology, economics, and neuroscience—to large-scale organizational change, advising CEOs and leadership teams across industries and countries. Julia’s TED talks on productive disagreement and constructive conversations have been viewed more than 8.5 million times. She is a Forbes columnist who has written for The Financial Times and Harvard Business Review and is a member of the Aspen Institute’s Advisory Board on Social Trust, and the National Advisory Board for Disagree Better. She holds a Master's in Public Policy (MPP) from Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government and a Bachelor's degree in Economic and Social Sciences from the University of Sydney. She has worked in more than 25 countries.
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