How AI Is Shaping Agility — with Jurgen Appelo
Jurgen Appelo shares how agility must evolve for the age of AI. From redesigned roles to AI-human teamwork, this episode explores what it takes to build adaptive, future-ready organizations.
Episode Overview
In this episode of AI Today, recorded live at the Agile2025 event, hosts Kathleen Walch and Avinash Dhanraj sit down with author, entrepreneur, and organizational design expert Jurgen Appelo to explore how agility must evolve in the age of AI.
As part of our AI & Agile mini-series, this conversation unpacks the challenges of outdated frameworks, the importance of experimentation, and what it takes to build organizations that are truly adaptable—when both humans and AI agents are part of the team.
Tune in to hear about:
- Why agility isn’t just about rituals—but about responsiveness and results
- How AI is reshaping team dynamics, leadership models, and management roles
- The tension between structure and emergence in AI-augmented organizations
- Why “everyone is a manager now” in hybrid human-AI teams
- How to preserve play, creativity, and purpose—even with algorithmic assistance
Whether you're a seasoned agile coach, project or program manager, transformation leader, or navigating the complexities of implementing AI, this conversation delivers wisdom, caution, and inspiration in equal measure.
Featured in This Episode

Jurgen Appelo
Jurgen Appelo is a radical synthesist, resolute unfixer, and unabashed rule-breaker. He not only brings together diverse perspectives in organization design and development—he tears them apart and rebuilds them for the Age of AI, without permission.
As an author, speaker, and entrepreneur, Jurgen helps leaders stop managing like it's 2001 and start rewiring their organizations for AI-driven leadership, autonomous digital agents, and algorithmic management. Through stories, games, tools, and practices, he shatters conventional thinking and gets his audience to experiment with human-AI teamwork, anti-fragile structures, and the unpredictable nature of customer and employee experience.
Inc.com recognized him as a Top 50 Leadership Expert and Top 100 Leadership Speaker, but he's most interested in redrawing the boundaries between opposing worldviews: human ingenuity and artificial intelligence, inspiring leadership versus strong governance, organizational stability with relentless innovation, and individual growth fueling collective success.
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